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Domainer Show – Episode 9

On Episode 9 of the Domainer Show, Rob and Ed discuss the following:
  • How do you get your .com(,) .io or .co domain name out of 60-day Registrar Lock? (Starts at 3:30)
  • Are gTLD sales in Australia really starting to happen? (Starts at 10:45)
  • Rob discusses a recent $28,000 .io sale that he brokered, as well as a .co sale and .com.au sales he’s made during October. (11:10)
  • Rob explains why he believes .co and .io domain names could be becoming popular. (19:50)
  • Why it’s not a good idea to buy an expired .com.au domain name from someone. (29:00)
  • What’s happening with Direct .AU Registration implementation? (36:20)
  • What is the Netpreneur Summit? It’s an online entrepreneur summit happening in Perth in a few weeks and Ed and Rob will be doing a live speaking event! Click HERE to buy your ticket! (39:20)
  Robert runs DBR.com.au and Ed runs OnlineImpact.com.au

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Joel

Another great show guys, thanks 🙂

Interesting about the HQ .au domain, I’ve had good success selling domains with the HQ suffix. I’m keen to find out about the one you sold.

Anthony Peake

It is interesting that you started to touch on the topic of domains with expired ABN/ACNs.  These cancelled ABN/ACN domains are hot potatoes, recently scottmorrison.com.au was deleted for having a cancelled ACN so it goes to show that these rules are applied quite strictly in 2018.

My question is once you find a cancelled ABN/ACN what do you do next? I’ve always felt a bit conflicted lodging a complaint since as a drop catcher I would then end up selling the domain but at the same time do we have some sort of an obligation to report it once we are aware of it?

I got into a discussion about this recently with auDA and they asked what I would change in policy if it was up to me. This is pretty tricky since there is no appetite to remove the ABN/ACN requirement, which would be a quick fix. I suggested they allow the editing of the Eligibility details without penalty. So in practice if a domain was found with a canceled or deregistered ABN then they would be given 30 days to change it to an active ABN. This would be a no-questions asked ability to edit it, rather than the current rather aggressive stance of forcing the deletion. There is already a precedent for this within policy in relation to the Registrant Contact details, if they are found to be incorrect then they can be edited at will. This basically then opens the door to free COR which is probably not a bad thing either. Registrars can already edit the Eligibility details in limited circumstances so there is no technical change, it is literally just a change of policy.

I’m guessing this is going to start getting discussed more frequently moving forward as one of the requirements for the new Registry Operator was that they could provide an ability for auDA to have visibility of this data. What is auDA going to do once they are aware of the scale of the problem? Are they allowed to continue to ignore it? What happens when you combine this with direct registrations? Are auDA going to allow registrants with cancelled ABNs rights to the the equivalent .au domain?

Okay, so you could probably do a whole show on just this topic, if you could get someone from auDA to chat about it that would make very compelling listening.

Robert

Thanks for your comments Anthony.

From our research, there are currently nearly 800 deregistered PREMIUM one-word .com.au Domain Names that currently show as DE-REGISTERED Status with their ABN or ACN.

Who knows how many two-words or business names are also deregistered, but the data would obviously be in the several thousands.

Your current solution is good advice for current policy, while we have no other options. If you or a client wants to buy a domain name that currently has a “bad ABN” attached to it, perhaps the first port of call is to let the domain owner know that he/she should change his/her “contact and ABN” details, so you can make an offer to buy his/her domain name?

I guess the new Direct .AU Registration implementation rules being formed by The PRP may also look at this problem with existing .COM.AU Registration policy?

In any case, let’s just continue to hope The PRP don’t attempt to use policy change for existing .COM.AU domain names to take domain monetisation rules backwards.